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Is this an actual press release? If so I would not begin with the word "steal", I would let the quotes and dates speak for themselves. |
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This is getting ridiculous. Can someone explain how this press release is moving the dialogue forward? This is the crass style of politics that I would expect from the Kerry campaign, not from the straight talker. I am really starting to get nervous that Dean is just another politician after all. |
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The Democratic nominee will have to face a Bush juggernaut with agressive tactics. One way that works is pointing out when someone changes their position. After all, last fall, Rep. Gephardt et. al. campaigned as Bush-lite for control of Congress; he did not (which I suspect is the real issue) put political capital into universal health care. Score by pointing it out. |
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honestly, i don't want dick to get credit for howard's line. but i do agree that "steal" is a bit harsh. i would rather have seen something along the lines of "dr dean thanks gephart for finally realising what dean's been saying since january: we can't be bush lite to win the campaign." |
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wait wait, i've got it! |
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Dean should tone it down a bit here. I love his attacks, but he's a little harsh and they can come back to him. |
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What a stupid press release. I hope this is a joke, but if not, then the campaign needs to seriously step back and examine what its goals are. I thought that the press was going a little overboard with their description of Dean being an "attack dog," but with the activity in the last week and this press release, they might be right. Dean attracted so many people to him with his message and vision for America. He did it without tearing down his opponents. He has to get back to his message, or his momentum will surely peter out and he will have peaked in April. Quit the silly press releases! |
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This is a joke, right? Trippi & Co. did not really send this out as a post-debate press release, did they? If so, this is totally Bush-league (perhaps a decent double-entendre, but I digress). Let's see, attack Kerry (which may or may not have been a bad thing), but now just move down the line and attack Gephardt? This is pretty weak -- STAY ON MESSAGE!!! |
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agreed, ziggy. |
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It's really bad. I sincerely doubt that Dean invented the term 'Bush-lite'. |
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Dean should have called Little Dicky on this at the debate...not the day after. He should have said..."yo Little Dicky...I invented Bush-Lite" And put Little Dicky in his place on the spot in front of a national audience ABC, C-SPAN. Dean was far too reserved last night. |
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Shux, |
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Dean's performance in the S.C. dabate was a little disappointing I expected more; but Bobby Kennedy did'nt "catch his stride" for some peroid of time too. Its not who is first out of the gate that matters. I can't stand Gephart or Sharpton; Edwards was good Kerry, not bad. Braun was excellent but is she electable? and Graham is boring, Liberman doesn't excite me and then there is Dennis Who? |
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Reminds me of people cutting into Dean when he "stole" the late Senator Wellstone's line about the "democratic wing". Those attacks weren't substantive, and neither are these on Geppy. |
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I have no reservations about "Candidate" Dean catching stride, but "Campaign Headquarters" Dean is starting to make me nervous with some of this sniping. It's not so much about *JUST* getting noticed now; virtually every press outlet considers him in the top tier of candidates, and his message plays well once people hear it -- and they will now that he is being covered. But if/when people start talking about this sorry excuse for a progressive press release, chinks in the armor will start to show. |
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Uh...where did this press release come from? It's not on the Dean for America website. It's not on the call to action blog. Is it really *official*? Frankly, I doubt it. If you wrote it Matt, that's totally cool, but we need to make it clear that if that is the case, this was not produced by the official campaign. Anything that we can do to distance Dr. Dean from such attacks that might be construed as "petty" would be beneficial. |
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Uh...I am not sure folks have a true understanding of how these things work -- so let me explain. During the debate each campaign has a team that literally anwsers any exchange in the debate within moments of the exchange occuring. The SC Democratic Party assigns runners between the campaign and the press to each campaign -- so the press is getting almost instant response and has the facts to shape the story of what is happening in the debate. There had to be dozens of releases last night from serveral of the campaigns each. No reporter is going to use any of those releases -- but if they had not thought of the "Bush lite" line being Howard Dean's for instance-- at least they are all aware of it. Experience teaches that if you even want them to look at it you have to say something in the "release" headline that makes them take a second look at what you are saying. We actually got a release out within seconds for instance of Joe Lieberman saying he wanted to strangle George S. saying "The Dean campaign conceded only one point in the debate tonight -- that the best line was delivered by Joe Lieberman...." Alot of the flurry included health care stats during John Kerry's question of the Governor's record -- which many in the press concluded was unfounded on Kerry's part. All of this is unseen by the public -- and as I have said -- not one of those releases from any campaign will make it into a news story. Lieberman actually put one out in the middle of the debate that said something like "Howard Dean tonight stood firm in his opposition to the war" Seriously it was a one line release -- and we are still scratching our heads over that one. |
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I was also disturbed when I saw this release on dean2004. It doesn't _look_ good, but I appreciate your explanation Joe. Matt, can you put an update on the website indicating that this was a tongue in cheek comment alla stuff you'd see on the Note? |
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All, |
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Thanks for the explanation...I've done some press work but never on anything on this scale--but I guess I should have known if city councillors flood local papers with 1-3 press releases presidential candidates will do several times that volume. |
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Joe, |
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Joe Trippi et al... |
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So Dean was the FIRST to ever use the phrase "Bush-Lite"??? Amazing rhetorical land grab. |
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Thanks Joe for the insider information. |
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I appreciate the explaination. |
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We really are trying to run a different kind of campaign -- but I will make my share of mistakes, there is no such thing as a perfect campaign. But on the debate press release issue -- nothing any of the campaigns did was of consequence. |
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Joe - I want to reiterate this yet again, thank you very much for keeping in such strong communication with us on the blog. I think I speak for everyone when I say we are incredibly appreciative of your paying such close attention to we Dean's most loyal fans. |
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I agree with Scott, and Joe I am sorry that I'm gonna miss meeting you this Friday in Dallas (I go on vacation on Wednesday). So when are we Deanbloggers gonna have enough campaign cred that you'll rearrange Dean's trips to suit us? |
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But it still wasn't your line. The explanation is appreciated, and it's a good thing for the campaign since you would have looked extraordinarily petulant had it been printed, but Greenpeace used Bush-lite in reference to Daschle 2 years ago...Everyone and their mother was calling Dubbya "Bush-lite" during the 2000 campaign, and Frost was stuck with it when he was planning to run against Pelosi. The line no more belonged to your than Gephardt (and, lets be honest. Even if you had made it up, it's a natural progression from Republican-lite, this is like when Amazon tried to patent one-click checkout). I think stunts like this are damgain to your candidate and campaign because the CW they shape is that Dean is simply an attack dog. There's more to your candidate than that...you'd be well served to let it show. |
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I too appreciate Joe Trippi's efforts to engage us in the actual behind-the-scenes process of the campaign. That's why this campaign is different and that's why this campaign is going to MAKE a difference. |
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