07/22/2002 Archived Entry: "Dean on Meet The Press; Guns"
His first venture on MTP (transcript) went very well, and I got a number of emails about his candidacy. According to The Note, here's this weeks schedule for Dean:
Dean, is in California today, where he will address the state assembly Democratic caucus, among other events. On Tuesday, Dean's San Francisco schedule includes a speech to the state AFL-CIO. Thursday, Dean will be in South Carolina, where he'll tour a Charleston children's hospital and attend some other events; he'll be in Atlanta on Friday; and he will address a conference in Fort Lauderdale, FL on Saturday.
In the Boston Globe article, Dean says US tax cut should be repealed, there is a clue to the possible attacks on Gov Dean from other Democrats:
But the governor might run into trouble with Democats in a primary because of his opposition to most gun control, a position that has earned him a strong rating from the National Rifle Association.
Though he is oppossed to any further federal gun laws, his support is for states and local groups to make their own laws. I don't see this as hurting Dean in the first three primary states, IA, NH, and SC. But it might in the bigger Urban areas of the Super Tuesday primaries.
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I saw Dean last night for the first time -- wow! I was impressed. I even called my spouse into the room to sit down and listen to him. I am all for strong gun control, but Dean even seemed to be pretty reasonable about that issue, too. He's not some rabid Charleton Heston-type on guns.
Posted by Oregonian @ 07/22/2002 01:33 PM PST
I saw Dean on Meet the Press, and he was VERY good. Russert tried to paint him as condoning terrorists, but Dean easily parried him. On guns, I may disagree with him (I am a strong gun control supporter), but his moderation on the issue is nonetheless wise. But Montana? Gore lost by 25 in Montana-how could he have won even if his position had been like Dean's?
Montana only went Democratic for Clinton in 1992 because of Perot. True, Dukakis did well here (46%), but I don't add Montana as a state we should go after in 2004.
Mydd, I sent an E-Mail to you at your "webmaster" E-Mail address.
Posted by Mr. Liberal @ 07/22/2002 02:15 PM PST
Kerry and Edwards will tear Dean's legs off in the debates while President Gore easily walks to renomination! Go Al Go! In case anyone didn't notice Al Gore finally found what most Dem leaders lack...a backbone and a big bullhorn and he is using it. "Bush is a liar"-Gore Let Dean come into the Dem primaries, he is toast in urban areas because of his gun record and he is toast in the South because of civil unions and taxes. Even Southern Dems love tax cuts. Gore will walk away with the black vote ie Clinton's VP and the man who got robbed by Bushie denying the black vote. Watch and learn
Posted by GaDem @ 07/22/2002 02:39 PM PST
GaDem, I am undecided about who I want as the nominee. I personally think Gore would be a great candidate, and I did support him over Bradley in 2000. So, I would have no problem with Gore in '04.
Have you been to http://www.algore04.com yet?
Posted by Mr. Liberal @ 07/22/2002 05:29 PM PST
Check out the Senate elections forum *GaDem in full effect*
Still the One
8:18 PM PST
From abcnews.com
Democrats Overwhelmingly Prefer Al Gore to Be Their Presidential Nominee in 2004, a New ABCNEWS Poll Finds
By Gary Langer
WASHINGTON, July 18 - - Al Gore, winner of the popular vote for president in 2000, is the overwhelming choice among Democrats to try it again in 2004.
Much can and will happen between now and the far-off 2004 elections. But for now, in a matchup against five possible opponents, Gore gets 50 percent support for his party's presidential nomination, dwarfing the opposition. Sens. Tom Daschle, John Kerry and John Edwards, Rep. Dick Gephardt and Vermont Gov. Howard Dean are all in the single digits.
Twenty percent have no opinion; if they all went to one candidate (implausible) he'd still trail Gore by around 2-1. Thus Gore's challenge, if he runs, is to keep the support he's got; the others' task, more difficult, is to wrest it away from Gore.
2004 Democratic Presidential Nomination
Al Gore 50%
Tom Daschle 9%
John Kerry 7%
Dick Gephardt 7%
John Edwards 3%
Howard Dean 1%
Others 4%
No Opinion 20%
These results are better for Gore than in some other recent polls. That's apparently because they've included Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as a candidate (she's said she won't run) and former Sen. Bill Bradley (who's made no sign he will).
Lieberman
Sen. Joseph Lieberman has said he won't run if Gore does. Without Gore, Lieberman leads the pack with 21 percent support, Daschle 14, Gephardt 13, Kerry 10 and Edwards and Dean in single digits.
2004 Democratic Presidential Nomination Without Gore
Joseph Lieberman 21%
Tom Daschle 14%
Dick Gephardt 13%
John Kerry 10%
John Edwards 7%
Howard Dean 3%
Others 4%
No Opinion 29%
With Gore and Lieberman both in the mix - - anything can happen - - Gore's still far out in front, with 46 percent support. Lieberman has 10 percent; the rest, single digits.
Dem. Nomination With Gore and Lieberman
Al Gore 46%
Joseph Lieberman 10%
Tom Daschle 8%
John Kerry 6%
Dick Gephardt 5%
John Edwards 3%
Howard Dean 1%
Others 3%
No Opinion 18%
Polls this far from an actual election mainly measure name recognition, which Gore has in buckets, and which Lieberman gained, in lesser measure, in 2000. But that's not nothing: There's quite a bit to be said for name recognition, as President Bush will attest. In a March 1999 ABC/Post poll, Bush led the GOP pack with 52 percent support, better than 2-1 over his nearest competitor, Elizabeth Dole.
The results in this poll are among self-identified Democrats and independents who lean Democrat, but they're essentially same - - within a point or two - - among Democrats only. Gore's support slips slightly among people who seem likeliest to vote, but it's early for that gauge to mean much - - and he still leads by a 3-1 margin, or better.
Groups
While Gore leads among all groups, his support peaks among Democrats who are younger, less-educated, nonwhite, conservative, suburban or born-again Protestants, and its lower among their opposites. These are quibbles, though, for a potential candidate with 50 percent support in a six-way race.
Analyzing Gore's Support Among Leaned Democrats
Age 18-30 60%
Age 61+ 40%
Conservative 61%
Moderate or Liberal 48%
Nonwhite 59%
White 44%
South 56%
West 42%
High School/Less Education 56%
College/More Education 44%
Evangelical Protestant 56%
Not Evangelical 43%
Suburban 55%
Rural 44%
Methodology
This ABCNEWS/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone July 11-15, 2002, among a random national sample of 1,512 adults, including 682 self-identified Democrats and independents who lean Democrat. The results among leaned Democrats have a four-point error margin. Fieldwork by TNS Intersearch of Horsham, PA
Posted by GaDem @ 07/22/2002 05:47 PM PST
I think Howard Dean is the REAL THING and will go a long way in the primaries. Gore won't have it locked up by a long shot. A fresh face with fresh ideas and a long record of public service as a Governor (and a doctor!) will make Dean a tough competitor. Dean did so much better facing off with Tim Russert on Meet the Press than pretty face/no substance "Senator" Edwards it's pathetic.
Posted by PhillyBoy @ 07/22/2002 07:43 PM PST
Ever watched John Edwards on the Senate floor? When he takes it Trent Lott sweats bullets! The man did make his millions as a trial lawyer so I am sure he can debate. Kerry is no slouch either and when Gore is at the top of his game he is an outstanding debater. Dean is Governor of not just a small state, he is Governor of Vermont. Name two cities in Vermont? Bet you had to stop and think! Yea Carter did it but Carter was Governor of Georgia! Big difference folks. Dean needs to write some books. If he were the nominee the Repubs and the insurance companies would pull the socialized medicine card which even almost brought Clinton himself down.
Posted by GaDem @ 07/23/2002 10:15 AM PST
Dean would hold his own against Kerry and Edwards, easily. In fact, he'd have them doing (and Gore too) the limbo on the CU issue and Guns. He's the only one with any real accomplishments.
What has Edwards done, besides pull an all-nighter reading the Patriot Bill, and then vote for the anti-constituitional bill anyway?
Still, getting to be President is more about image and being on TV than anything else. Dean is great on TV, in all sorts of settings. Edwards is too, when he's in Bush-like settings not being confronted. Kerry speaks well, but has a distant mannerism. Gore, yea well, there's Gore.
On TV, Dean looks good, is quick on his feet, blunt, forthright, and opinionated and accomplished.... but all in a moderate pragmatic sense, blending conservative economics with social liberalism. That's interesting to the voters.
Posted by myDD @ 07/23/2002 11:35 AM PST
I know your biased toward Dean and thats fine but please...I am GAY and the civil union issue alone aint enough to sway my vote because it has zero chance of happening on the national scene anytime soon. Also do we really want to nominate a governor in a time of war? not just a governor but the ex governor of vermont?! I can see the Bush machine already saying Vote for Bush/Cheney to keep America safe. Gore has 100 times more foriegn policy experience than Bush.
Posted by GaDem @ 07/24/2002 04:23 PM PST
